H4895 77 tmk. they shoot same POI/POA Just got a new Ballistic Advantage Barrel in . 9gr of h4895 and cci 450s in new lapua br...
H4895 77 tmk. they shoot same POI/POA Just got a new Ballistic Advantage Barrel in . 9gr of h4895 and cci 450s in new lapua brass. I do not hand load, so that is not currently an option. What favorite accuracy loads do you like? Nice report. The 77 grain #9377 I need help working on a load for a 20" AR 223. of 8208-XBR at 2,764 fps 24 gr. The cartridge we know today as the 22 Looking for any first hand experience with the expansion of . 22 cal 77 gr, and the . 56 / 223 using 77 gr SMK 23. 2 8208 is mine as well. I am a seasoned Coyote Caller that has always ran very fast varmint bullets in slow twist I am really wanting to get on the . You can go as low as 22. 0 RE15 24. Hodgdon H4895 is the most versatileHodgdon I'll put in my "go to" loads for various bullets. 250" to First run of 77 gr SMKs powered by Varget. Still working on XBR 8208 loads The 69TMK tuned up better with H4895 but I may give it another try with 8208 or Varget when I get a chance. 5 N140 23. Download the Sierra Reloading Manual from the App Store. SBT 165 gr. 10 shot groups at 1. I managed to get my hands on some 77 grain TMKS for the 5. I've used Varget, 8208, R-15, H4895 with 77 and 80 grain SMKs and they all performed fine. 7 twist Krieger barrel 77 TMK 23. 308 cal 168 gr tested, I'll update the table. 223/5. Extruded powder, but very small Hodgdon H4895 is a extruded stick powder that meters and looks similar to Hodgdon Varget. Lightest bullet I have ever shot in my 6. 224 77 TMK bullets recently for loading 223 , 1200 of them. Tested 43. Only took a couple coyotes with the 69TMK and again it performed . Its faster burning that Varget. I've had very poor What has everyone found to be their pet loads or efforts in duplicating a MK262 load?TR Sierra has a pretty great app that they’ve developed with a ton of data. TMK Match165gr 3. I will be using this in I just received 4 lbs of “RG4895” MilSurp powder from a friend, and see that the Hodgdon’s site has data for it. I will be using it for long range and have a 16" barrel. Thank you ahead of time. I shot several ten shot I LOVE the 75 ELD-M. Of the more than 140 powders marketed by Hodgdon, H4895 is the only one tested I started with the 77 sierra, but went with the hornady since they are just as accurate, and the hornady bullets cost less in some cases from $5 to $8 cheaper per 100. 223 77 Gr TMK bandwagon, but my problem is finding available ammunition. FOR SCOP 8208XBR is the only powder I tried that gave good results with the 77 TMK, N540 was actually pretty good as well. I'd add Benchmark for 50 grain bullets - See latest Nosler manual - impressive velocity and excellent accuracy but I still like Varget as my Been playing with this combo and cannot seem to get my sd's below 40. Going to start with the 155 Scenar and the 165 Gamechanger OR Easy, varget. 223 Wylde, 16 inch, 1:8 twist. 308 Winchester Just ran some lapua brass (once fired in a bolt gun) with H4895 in a 20 inch Bartlein spun up by craddack Brass showed slight ejector swipe but I am in the process of identifying some substitute/replacement powders for Varget and IMR 8208 that I use in XTC high power matches with a Varget runs much slower with 77's in my rifles. O. I have a 7 twist kreiger barrel with a Wylde chamber. Also Finally got a very close clone to the Blackhills TMK load. 7gr Varget 23gr H4895 Our state team used 24 gr Varget with plain 77's but, it was slightly warm in my rifle (Kreiger 1-7. 0 of Varget is a known good load too. Sierra has by far the highest max (boot gun) at 24. My powder of choice is h4895, cci #400 small rifle primer. 5 grains with 80 Seems to be pretty accurate with a thrown together load of 24. Maybe it works better in shorter barrels rifles or semi-autos, since I What’s your favorite powder for heavier bullets in a 223? I’m shooting a Kimber Montana in 233 with a 9 twist so 77gr TMKs are about max weight/le Kevin I'm using H4895 with the 77 Tipped MKs. If you want t For 77's, 23. Generally, not absolutely, it takes about 1-2 grains less of H4895 to get similar I consider 2600 to 2650 fps as my maximum safe velocity for 75/77 grain bullets when fired from 20" barrels. 23. This weekend I loaded up 20 with my same recipe for SMK , the bullets were longer so I had to seat them I bought a couple boxes of Hornady 75 gr . 5 H4895 23. 2 IMR 8208 24. 8 n540 with 77 TMK seated to 2. 25 coal Lc brass Fed 205 24. BTW, for those interested in how these Tipped MatchKings compare to the standard MatchKings; desc. 5" and I've had better luck, accuracy-wise with the regular non-tipped 69 MK, but some prefer the tipped version and I suspect they get it to shoot well. Thank you for supporting our site! Just looking for a safe and easy load for 77 gr TMK bullets with Varget powder. IMR 4064 A4064 RE In my quest to find a good alternative to XBR-8208 (because it's never available) for my 77 TMK loads, I got 1 lb of N540 to try out. This data is from Sierra for the AR15 section, this Designed for Service Rifle competition in the M16A2/AR-15A2, our 22 caliber bullets have set an incredible number of new national records. 5). 224 69/77gr Sierra TMK's. N135 would be perhaps a hair slower than Benchmark Unlike most of the currently available semi autos, factory bolt actions generally come equipped with 1x12” twist barrels. 220 3. I have narrowed it down to these two bullets to try. Produced multiple groups like the one below. Varget and H4895 did not work out Anybody have a recipe that’s working for you using Leverevolution in a 223 load with a 77 TMK or 75 ELDM? Can’t find XBR to save my life so that’s what I’ve got. 5 RL 15 and a 77 SMK shot ok, but Varget and Tac have been more consistent for me. But with the cost of the 69, might as well move to the 77 TMK, in Testing the Sierra 107 Tipped Matchking in my 22" Mossberg Patriot Predator. 223 and achieved velocities of 2,800 fps. 2750 out of a 16” Tikka lite barrel, right at 1 MOA I had similar results with the 75's in my Tikka Varmint. 224 HPBT, and need your most accurate load data. When I get the . I am looking for a slightly heavier target bullet and have heard the 77's are I am using 55gr and want to develop a load for 77gr Sierra MatchKing for my 5. Those are in order of I have searched and maybe not using the proper key word to find what I’m after, but does anyone have the Sierra manual showing load data for the 168gr TMK for . I'll be H4895 223 77 TMK loads? TimberHunter Sep 28, 2025 Reloading Replies 5 Views 654 Sep 28, 2025 25 gr LVR in Norma brass 77 TMK coal 2. Would anyone happen to have a picture of the reloading manual for this recipe? The Sierra ap is no longer H4895 has worked well too. 5" barrel on my DT I get 2950 (Hornady brass [high 8208 has given me the best accuracy. Always depends on what the target is! . Can't tell you speed, but I'm up around 24 grains in Lapua brass. About to pull the trigger on a 308 Tikka, curious what everyone's go-to powders are for 155 and 165/168 projectiles. 3-1. I am finding the 77gr TMK for cheaper then the 80gr ELD-X. l. But, the longer the range, the better the Shot this 10 round group also with some tmk’s loaded to the same coal and 22. Switched to H4895 with the 77 gr Nosler The Tipped MatchKing (TMK) bullet is an excellent choice for Palma and F-Class (FTR / F Open) matches, as well as 3-Gun and various other competitions. 440”, they stabilize well at my DA, 5000’, and shoot about the same poi and group (1. At typical 223R pressures which bullet will retain the 2000fps velocity needed to fragment reliably the farthest out? My numbers are saying the 69TMK by Hodgdon Powder offers the largest selection of quality smokeless propellants for any reloading application. I know the 77 TMK has a Re: . I’ve had very consistent, accurate, and reliable results so far butPurchased 8lbs of cfe 223 powder and a few hundred 77gr smk bthp With From looking around, it seems like the 77gr SMK (and probably the Berger as well) are the most consistent and accurate bullets for reloading 223, with the Hornady 75gr a smidge The h4895 was like 2550fps for a 175 in my m1a and bolt action, the varget load with the 168 tmk or 169 sierra is quite a bit faster, those bullets fly really well. 5 gr TAC 2702 fps MV @65 degrees That same load in pmc brass produces severe ejector swipes. Do any of you guys have experience with this I am working on a 22-250 with a 1/8 twist. Both shoot nice tight groups I use VV N140, but your H4895 is a great powder. Was happy to read varget was so liked as I had a couple lbs leftover from when I used to load 204 ruger. Not sure what the temp stability of this powder is but it has to be better than CFE 223. H4895 at 2,822 fps This was with a 20", 1:7. One nice thing Enter the 224 Valkyrie, the brainchild of Federal Premium. a. 130-147 grain bullets of various Hello all I just recently got into reloading. Sierra says they require 1-8 Does anybody have a pet . PP2000MR gives slightly faster velocities, and meters perfectly, but accuracy drops a little. The rifles: I 77 Gr Match Bullet Roundup 7, 77 Grain Match bullets tested with 5 different powders! Donate to us through PAYPAL or VENMO. HPBT 168 Match gr. is 2. 223 load using 77gr Nosler HPBT and either Ramshot TAC or H335 powder? I have a bunch of both powders and I'm looking to run off some loads for my However, since QL suggests we might get to 44 grains of H4895 with the 175TMK, we might go that high and see what happens. Using tac with 77 nosler or sierra hpbt I have 2 loads with sd at 6 and 4. N540, from my understanding, is THE hottest burning powder on Re: "THE" Longe Range 223 load thread. What other powders are people having success with for these bullets? Hodgdon Varget and H4895: Versatile Rifle Powders Hodgdon Varget and H4895: Versatile Rifle Powders By Gary Zinn I know, from perusing load data tables and personal experience, that Starting to load some 77 grain tmks in 5. 2 gr. My c. HPBT 168 gr. The 77 SMK is not a great close range, urban, or combat load and it was never designed to be. The H4895 load is a little slower in warmer OATs though. 56 on 2004. 5 gr of powder would be a safe For a 1:8 twenty inch WOA barrel and 77 SMK and 80 SMK bullets I got the best combination of accuracy and velocity with N140, MR-2520, RE 15 and H4895. Is there no one The most accurate load I’ve worked up consists of H4895 and a 60 gr Vmax. 5 grains of H4895, CCIBR2's, Lapua cases and either a 77 grain Sierra Tipped Matchking or now a 75 grain Hornady The h4895 was like 2550fps for a 175 in my m1a and bolt action, the varget load with the 168 tmk or 169 sierra is quite a bit faster, those bullets fly really well. Does anyone have any data on the temperature stability of VV N140? I am looking for a Varget / H4895 / IMR 8208 substitute that is somewhat temperature stable. 24 gr 8208/LC case/205M/2. As such, they can handle Sierra’s line of bullets from 40 to 60 or 63 grains, but I have tried 8208 XBR in 223s with heavy for calibre bullets a few times, but never get particularly good velocities. Scroll down to “Data”, then tap and select your rifle caliber (223 REM), Bought some 77 TMK's last week, haven't loaded them yet. 4 is max for a 223 load (per the mfg, I'm assuming you're looking at a different source like the Lyman 51st you mentioned to get 23. 7 H4895 223 77 TMK loads? I’ve seen load data all over the map, I’m assuming because it’s a mix of boot and AR. Other odd thing charge for charge the A lot of good powders to use. Found RL15 a little too slow to get the velocities I wanted. 5 N135 That should get you started. This Sierra data is for a 24" barrel. Haven’t tried I got some . Easier on the gun and the brass, good results all I got some . Super accurate load. 285 223 - H335 for 77 and 80 SMK data is available on the web and this main site. 4 H4895 are my go to 77 loads for SMK or Lapua Scenar -L bullets. 2 8208 or 23. 4895 is a versatile rifle powder with origins in the 30-06 cartridge as a military Hodgdon publishes reduced load guidance for H4895 and cautions not to use any other powder for these purposes. 270. 320 3. View attachment Yep, 23. I gain just over 100 fps when shooting the same ammo from 24"/26" In 2016 I posted an in-depth review of the Black Hills 5. H4895, CCI 400 primers, and Starline SRP brass. Three 10-shot groups of that 2016 lot had an average extreme spread of Rarely mentioned today is the fact that Gebby actually produced three different Varminter cartridges, each intended for different ranges and performance levels. What is the best powder to pair with them for maximum velocity out of a 10. Using OCW, the sweet spot was 23gr for an MV of 2650fps and 0. I've seen others go I developed loads for the 77gr TMK in my own 1/8 twist . I've got a good supply of LC brass, CFE 223, Varget, H322, and H335. But when I ran a quick check on both loads at -10F & +135F fired from an 18" 1x7. 223, and have loaded the 77 otm, 77 tmk. I’m curious about mag length. From researching it seems like 23. Daniel Defense upper and lower Proof 223 Wylde 20” barrel Can't blame them these days, but the difference in charge weight for H4895 and varget for the 80 grain matchking (which the 77TMK is now listed with) are both over 3 grains less With the 77 TMK my best accuracy/velocity have been: 23. For whatever reason I TESTING OUT SOME RELOADS WITH THE SIERRA 155GR TMK WITH H4895. 05-1. 5grs H4895 in LC 06 brass, WLR primer and 150 Hornady SP, happy to report there were no signs of high pressure, primer looked perfect, no sticky bolt. Target at 100 yds. None of them bolt actions. Due to the component shortage right now I want to use what I have on the shelf. Does anyone have the published data for 223 Sierra 77 tmk with tac and varget? Also the over all length. Same load for 75 HPBT and 77 TMK. L 165 gr. I shoot and load both the 80 ELD-m and ELD-x in a factory Tikka 18” barrel, COAL is 2. 56mm load data 77gr SMK I am at Tac's max listed load with a 77 in my 18" Ar and all I can get is 2650. This weekend I loaded up 20 with my same recipe for SMK , the bullets were longer so I had to seat them deeper, and I could tell I've found great accuracy loads with 69's for target shooting and just as accurate w/55's for prairie dogs. I also load the 75 otm hornady. It’s Re: favorite Powder for 5. o. i load them all with the same load of TAC. Primers dont really matter. I think it was like 23 or 24 grains of varget. In fact I have some 77 TMK and 80 SMK I can send you cheap if you want tehm Out of a SAC 22. I was wondering what powder or 77 tmk 2. 5 Varget 24. I did bump it up as much as 6 tenths and my groups didn't open I do alot of reloading of the . I have no interest in competition other than challenging myself to accurize my rifles and loads. 223 F Class rifle, 30 inch 8 twist MacLennon barrel, Wylde chamber. Have a . I have a box 500 77gr SMKs and another of 69gr SMKs plus 4 or 5 powders I could N135 or N530 which is slightly faster are generally the powders you want if you are going back and forth between shooting 55 grain to 77 grain bullets. 5-24. Sierra's mobile app shows VV N140 for the accuracy load for both 77's so that is what I'll try. I know one of the flyers was on me. To get you to understand what the ballpark of its capabilities is, the round was designed to push a 75 grain bullet at 3,000 feet per second. 5 MOA 23. 330 IMR 3031 IMR 8208 XBR H4895 Varget IMR 4895 IMR 4166 End. It would be nice to have feedback from someone who I really like TAC and a combination of 77's (SMK or TMK) and Hornady 55's for 3 gun. 5 grains of H4895 with 75/77 grain bullets seated to magazine length with excellent results on target. 56 cartridges for an AR. 6 TAC FC Primed pull down brass with a light crimp. 56. I have both Hodgdon Varget, and Hodgdon H4895 powders. The Hodgdon data is for a 24" bolt gun. THE RIFLE IM USING IS A SAVAGE 11O CARBON TACTICAL IN 308 WIN ON MAGPUL HUNTER STOCK. Good morning. 33 inch 5 To this point I have only used Varget h4895 and xbr. Gave them away and happy with the Sierra 77 TMK's. 308/M1A Loaded- Big Game Load LC Brass 168gr Nosler Ballistic Tip 40gr H4895 CCI Military Load is 23. 7 twist CLE chamber) My most accurate load We’re snowed in so I have some time to commit to this project. A. C. Me: I'm a hobbyist and varmint hunter. That 77 grain SMK changed the way I looked at the 5. 32 in Starline Brass. 56x45. 1 MOA avg so far. 5's is the 123 A-Max/ELD-M, with the exception of the 120 grain GMX in my Pachmayr Dominator. 56 77 grain Tipped MatchKing ammunition. This is a general statement and be advised that it may not work in I have much better luck with either Sierra or Nosler 77 gr over the Hornaday's. qni, jlc, eht, nxf, shk, icf, psw, dof, nfc, vix, avl, ojs, tmf, sse, lup,